[CLASSIC] NOVEMBER 2016 RULES / BANLIST UPDATE
Before we delve into a minor rule change and individual card explanations we need to discuss the overall idea around this wave of unbans. Even with preliminary 20 life testing, blue and green continue to have powerful decks in the format, as we expected. Part of the initial change to 20 life was to promote players using white/black/red as base colors for decks instead of blue or green. With 20 life, red gained a visible advantage but black and white could benefit some help from unbans. Additionally, no blue or green cards were made legal in this update, so that we can see how the format grows from here. It is possible and likely that some blue/green cards might be unbanned at some point but we want to be especially careful not to shift back into a total blue/green dominance.
Changes:
👉 First, regarding individual card changes:
Yawgmoth’s Bargain is now legal.
Serra Ascendant is now legal.
Grindstone is now legal.
Necropotence is now legal.
Balance is now legal.
👉 Second change, now, about the players’ starting life totals. As a reminder of our last announcement, Duel Commander is now to be played with 20 starting life totals for players. This is a change from previous rules. This change is now effective, and playing with 30 starting life totals are not supported anymore, as opposed to what was the case during the last two months of transition.
👉 The third change for this announcement is the removal of the 21 commander-damage rule removal. Starting this day, this rule does not exist in Duel Commander anymore. Official documents have been updated accordingly.
Playing with 20 starting life totals raised questions about the relevance and the maintenance of the 21 commander-damage rule. The new “partner” ability from Commander 2016 made this concern more important, recently. Indeed, this new ability comes with a few practical concerns, for it would now be necessary to individually note each and all of the separate commanders cumulated damages, as well as increasing or decreasing life totals, which could make up to six points totals to note.
We deeply regret the removal of this rule, which contributed to the spirit of the game and of the Commander format (and therefore, formerly, Duel Commander from its birth to this day). Please also note this update enhances life-gain strategies, which is a secondary, yet positive consequence, especially in a metagame where extremely aggressive decks could arise.
Balancing the format as well as making it more playable prevails on a certain nostalgy. Therefore, the 21 commander-damage rule is now removed from Duel Commander.
These changes apply on November 11, 2016. The next announcements will be published on January 16, 2017 (applying on January 20, 2017).
Until then, we wish you all many good games! 🙂
Further individual explanations:
Yawgmoth’s Bargain
If Yawgmoth’s Bargain remains without a doubt an awesome card advantage engine, it is true that in can also evolve into an amazing combo engine, when contextual format construction rules allow to do so. Such an abuse of Yawgmoth’s Bargain is unlikely in Duel Commander. The singleton construction rule, along with the high number of cards in the players’ libraries are close to being almost insurmountable constraints when it comes to building a system-based deck (like storm or eggs), for they drastically diminish the means of redundancy. On the other side, limiting mana acceleration resources and life totals at the start of games contributed in reasonably calibrating the power of this enchantment.
In fine, Duel Commander helps finding again the initial purpose of Yawgmoth’s Bargain: a card advantage engine, both resisting and prolific for decks that aim at controlling games. Such a use is absolutely acceptable in the current Duel Commander environment and Yawgmoth’s Bargain is therefore legal again.
Serra Ascendant
The adjustment on the number of life points at the start of the game made the restriction on Serra Ascendant perfectly obsolete. This card is now legal again in Duel Commander.
Grindstone
When Grindstone was banned, the combo (along with Painter’s Servant) could be set up very quickly (for cards like Ancient Tomb or Grim Monolith were still legal) and removal spells were little played (as aggro was weak with 30 life totals). Now, this combo is less toxic, slower and easily disrupted by any color (unlike the ones that use Necrotic Ooze). Those constraints therefore require creating a new archetype for Duel Commander, a classic combo deck, coming from eternal formats, open to all colors, offering a high number of building possibilities.
The new dynamics of Duel Commander induce that combo decks do not prevail anymore. We choose to include Grindstone back in the format.
Necropotence
Reducing the starting life totals widely “framed” the potential of Necropotence. It was obvious that 30 starting life points as a basic game mechanic fully justified its sidelining so far. Moreover, the specific construction rules of Duel Commander (singleton decks along with the number of cards in libraries) are very hostile to such a structuring card that Necropotence is. It is then a golden opportunity for Duel Commander to reconnect with an emblematic eternal-formats card, that is able to reinforce the interest of people in a misrepresented colour. The famous black enchantment is now back on the Duel Commander tables.
Balance
Balance is a degenerate card when played proactively (i.e. emptying one’s hand then playing Balance very early, with no creature on the battlefield and almost no cards in hand). Balance is also a reactive card, kind of a “panic button” when the situation is turning bad, but wiping out the battlefield with Balance is often at the cost of your hand. In Duel Commander, proactively setting up Balance can rarely be done (a few moxes, few low cost tutor effects, only one copy of Balance) and therefore, the card will mostly be played as a reactive – and reasonable – answer.
Following our will to make the format more spectacular, as opposed to the morose dynamics of formats like Modern or Standard, we chose to make Balance legal again in Duel Commander.
20 Responses so far
Marc
novembre 8th, 2016
I am not impressed
MoJo CoManDo
novembre 8th, 2016
While Balance is one of my favorite cards ever, it’s power level is… ridiculous. Still, looking forward to adding it into just about every one of my decks that support it.
Also, I really, really, really disagree with the fracturing of the format. Why not decide: (1) 21 life instead of 20; (2) keep the Commander 21 damage rule; (3) make « Duel Commander: Leviathan » it’s own thing, and add more rules to make it special.
Otherwise, you might as well call the 20-life version « Leviathan » (or whatever), since the 30 life version more accurately keeps with the spirit of the original DuelCommander format.
Jester
novembre 8th, 2016
With this change, why not unban Marath ?
Pierre Dupont
novembre 9th, 2016
J’aime les changements. On disait à la blague que vous ne reintègreriez jamais Yawg Bargain, maintenant on a l’air fou!
C’est cool par exemple, et j’adore la carte « Balance », je vais peut-etre faire un dec blanc maintenant!
Pas tros certain de la soustraction du « Commander damage », par exemple…mais on verra!
Caska
novembre 9th, 2016
Great, now all we need is to do away with Commanders altogether and you’ll have German Highlander, which is apparently what you want.
janopi
novembre 9th, 2016
I also think that this new format with 20 lifes should be named Leviathan (or better Abominiation) so it does not confuse anybody of what it realy is.
Btw. « great » unbans. I have never thought, that any member of the rules commitee could come up with idea of Balance beeing unbanable.
Please contact members of german highlander council just to get idea how banned list should look like.
Igor Medeiros
novembre 9th, 2016
« We deeply regret the removal of this rule, which contributed to the spirit of the game and of the Commander format (and therefore, formerly, Duel Commander from its birth to this day). » Why do it then? you might be helping the color balance but here you are, once more, taking out the importance of the Commander creature! Even the name of the format seams that will change anytime soon. you are losing a lot of players. is it better for you if they played standard more?
Romus
novembre 9th, 2016
Come on guys… Lowering the life total to 20 was a massive mistake…and now unbanning Balance? With all of the ridiculously bad choices you are making recently, I am starting to think you all work for WotC…
Jacko
novembre 9th, 2016
Really liking the changes, keep up the good work guys.
Bart Rabelo
novembre 9th, 2016
Good thing I didn’t bet my money, I was pretty sure Zurgo would be banned.
Well, considering that, I’m saying goodbye to Duel Commander for good, unfortunately. My local gaming stores’ DC tournaments have been dominated by Zurgo with player’s life at 30, now it will be even worse. And since I don’t have any intention in joining the crowd and also playing Zurgo just for the sake of it… That’s life.
nzz
novembre 9th, 2016
/o\ I will be sticking with Leviathan Commander, which, by the way will be represented at DTC
MontyB
novembre 20th, 2016
mybe you can give sensais topf another chance it gives deck without blue a chance for card selection and controll can need the help with 20 life the games faster so topf isn’t anymore a drawing game engine
luimeme
novembre 25th, 2016
Time to leave this format ! I miss the old comitee and i think 1 or 2 people must leave it for the sake of DC.
Bardiouk
décembre 2nd, 2016
Balance est vraiment dégénérée, les set up mis en place autour d’elle permettent rarement de à l’adversaire de s’en remettre.
Il devient difficile de comprendre la logique de la banlist, ça ne tient pas la route de banir oath of druids ou natural order et de laisser revenir une wrath qui discard en petant des lands pour un ccm de 2…
Je crains de plus en plus pour la crédibilité du comité.
nzz
décembre 5th, 2016
Already left this format, came back today to see if changes could make me play again .
* Click *
lol fuck no.
* Close the browser *
MontyB
décembre 6th, 2016
Hey when you make the BIG changes….
I could never understand why commander ( mybe highlander to?)
is the only format who’s a highest cardlimet exist.
I mean 100 cards for more diversity but must exactly play 100?
In every other format(exclude highlander?) theres only a minimum limit why not here either?
would be a nice change for me if that could be fixed….
Zool
janvier 4th, 2017
Well perfect, aggro is number one. Zurgo was dominating with 30 life, now with 20 life … lol, very balanced format now. Thanks very much
Jardach
janvier 8th, 2017
Hi,
When will be next BR list announcement? Ban Smasher..
QKey
janvier 12th, 2017
Hello!
The 20 life rule lead to a massive player growth in cologne. We now have every Friday 8+ player-events.
Games do not feel drawn out anymore and many commanders are viable now.
There has been a fast shift from only aggro to aggro and midrange and now some control in the meta. I think its a healthy format.
I would love to see Zur the Enchanter getting unbanned since there are now aggressive decks, which will punish you for not interacting in the first 3 to 4 turns. Same goes with Yisan, the Wanderer Bard.
Keep up the good work!
Max
avril 11th, 2017
Why is this change not on http://www.duelcommander.com/banlist/ ???
Is this Website still used or is it outdated? Do someone know where to find the actual List?
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